Software Microsoft per i cybercop

L'azienda è al lavoro per adattare alle esigenze delle forze dell'ordine alcuni tool per l'analisi del proprio software


Redmond (USA) – Arriva dall’Australia l’annuncio con cui Microsoft ha fatto sapere di voler sviluppare una serie di software da affidare agli esperti delle forze dell’ordine, software sofisticati che potrebbero secondo l’azienda rafforzare le potenzialità tecnologiche delle indagini su fatti criminosi della più diversa natura.

Nel corso di una conferenza dedicata all’aggiornamento delle forze dell’ordine che si tiene in Australia, uno dei boss di Microsoft Australia, Greg Stone, ha spiegato che l’uso sempre più massiccio dell’alta tecnologia da parte delle organizzazioni criminali sviluppa una forte pressione sui cybercop di mezzo mondo. Che si parli di riciclaggio di denaro sporco, di sfruttamento dei minori o di truffe, sempre più spesso Internet e le nuove tecnologie sono al centro delle operazioni della “cybermafia”.

Da qui, dunque, discende l’interesse per Microsoft di offrire strumenti dedicati. “Quello che vogliamo fare – ha affermato Stone – è di rendere i nostri strumenti interni disponibili alle forze dell’ordine. Non sto parlando di prodotti commerciali pronti all’uso che porremmo sul mercato, parlo di tecnologie altamente specializzate, di intelligenza artificiale e data mining, che possono essere usate in sicurezza solo da persone estremamente competenti”.

Lo sviluppo dei nuovi strumenti analitici che dovrebbero aiutare i cybercop nelle loro indagini è strettamente legato alla conversione e adattamento da parte di Microsoft di numerosi tool già utilizzati dall’azienda per le analisi interne sul proprio software.

“Mano a mano che questi tool diventano disponibili – ha spiegato Stone – li offriremo alle agenzie delle forze dell’ordine cosicché possano svolgere meglio il loro lavoro di catturare i criminali e offrire un beneficio alla società”. “Non si tratta – ha poi concluso – di una questione che riguarda solo Microsoft”.

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  • BSD_like scrive:
    Tru64 ... NetBSD
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    • Anonimo scrive:
      Re: Tru64 ... NetBSD
      http://www.openbsd.org/
    • Anonimo scrive:
      Re: Tru64 ... NetBSD
      come mai due os che vengono usati dallo 0,1% dell'universo hanno meno bug dell'os usato dal 99,9%? mistero ehah, Tru64 è un os prettamente server, netbsd non centra niente e al limite openbsd, windows è un os che serve per fare un po' di tutto, è ovvio che ha più bug, se vuoi usarlo solo per server leva tutto il resto e vedi che i bug diminuiscono (e si può fare, conosco gente che ha fatto girare win2k su un p100, basta avere tanta ram), quindi sti post da pseudo-esperto-faccio-finta-di-sapere-tutto puoi risparmiarteli, poi se lavori per suse o altre società ti capisco, ti pagano ed è giusto
      • BSD_like scrive:
        Re: Tru64 ... NetBSD
        Tru64 ha meno bug perchè è nettamente migliore di win!NetBSD centra come centrano altri o.s.: è usato anche dalla NASA insieme a Linux (anzi ultimamente è l'o.s. più usato dall'ente spaziale USA).Che win* sia usato da più persone non significa nulla: non sai nemmeno minimamente a quanti test è sottoposto un'o..s come Tru64 a cui (come altri UNIX) sono affidati i servizi più critici.Tra l'altro è l'o.s. standard usato per il controllo del traffico aereo (cioè dove vi è in gioco la vita delle persone - se 2 aerei si scontrano - mica è stato scelto win* in barba a tutti gli pseudo-studi prowin*: chissà perchè? Eppure M$ spara quegli studi a destra e manca, poi alla prova reale dei fatti, dove non si può barare, dove in gioco c'è la vita delle persone - e non politiche commerciali - si scelgono o.s. diversi da win*).Lo stesso dicasi per NetBSD: chissà perchè è scelto dalla NASA al posto di win* (ehm ... lato server) se win* sarebbe migliore!!!!Chissà perchè dove vi sono servizi critici che riguardano la vita delle persone come i server per il controllo delle macchine per oncologia questi sono Solaris o HP-UX!!Ma se fosse meglio win* (lato server) che cavolo ci starebbero a fare questi o.s.? E viene a parlare dicendo che o.s. a cui sono affidati questi servizi critici sono meno testati di win* (visto che hanno meno utenti)????????Guarda che se crashano quei server, non và giù l'interfaccia colorata: possono rimetterci la vita molte persone; quindi non diciamo cavolate!!!!
      • BSD_like scrive:
        Re: Tru64 ... NetBSD
        Dimenticavo: le particolarità su Tru64 non le ho descritte per pormi da esperto che dice (dall'alto) la verità.Ma perchè non tutti (anche sistemi UNIX) conoscono il metodo di produzione, test e sviluppo di OSF1 (ho trovato sistemisti UNIX che non conoscevano cosa è una disklabel, anche certificati).Io questi o.s. li ho anche a casa, avendo macchine RISC: un'AlphaServer 1000 5/400, un HP Visualize J5000 (dual PA-RISC), una Sun Ultra 30.Ma per l'appunto non tutti ci passano le giornate con questi mezzi/strumenti.
        • Anonimo scrive:
          Re: Tru64 ... NetBSD
          - Scritto da: BSD_like[...]
          Io questi o.s. li ho anche a casa, avendo
          macchine RISC: un'AlphaServer 1000 5/400[...]Quando ho avuto occasione di usare un Alpha sono rimasto a bocca aperta per come polverizzava i tempi di calcolo di WS molto più costose (a parte la Risc6000 IBM il cui prezzo però era tenuto basso grazie a una configurazione ridicolmente micragnosa).Ci sono speranze che senza la Fiorina ritirino fuori dai cassetti i progetti per EV9 ed EV10?
          • BSD_like scrive:
            Re: Tru64 ... NetBSD
            Ho saputo tramite personale Telecom Italia (in una delle attività che usa OSF1) che HP sembra intenzionata a ripensare al pensionamento dell'arch. Alpha (una circolare interna Telecom lo diceva).Non solo: ha ripensato anche al pensionamento dell'arch. PA-RISC. Ciò dopo il flop di Itanium che nelle intenzioni di HP doveva sostituire le 2 cpu RISC e portare avanti un solo o.s. UNIX HP-UXi su Itanium (il pensionamento del PA-RISC era deciso più in là).La scelta di HP per Alpha, è cmq di non farla entrare in concorrenza con PA-RISC assegnandogli un segmento di nicchia (Alpha + Tru64).Analoghe impressioni ho avuto in Alenia dove (Alpha + Tru64) viene usato nel controllo del traffico aereo.Scusa il ritardo per la risposta!
      • Anonimo scrive:
        Re: Tru64 ... NetBSD
        - Scritto da: Anonimo
        come mai due os che vengono usati dallo 0,1%
        dell'universo hanno meno bug dell'os usato dal
        99,9%? mistero ehL'uso non fa aumentare i bachi, anzi, un s.o. che ha a disposizione per il debugging le enormi risorse di Windows non è giustificato se ha più bachi di un sistema il cui team è più "povero".
        ah, Tru64 è un os prettamente server, netbsd non
        centra niente e al limite openbsd, windows è un
        os che serve per fare un po' di tutto, è ovvio
        che ha più bug, se vuoi usarlo solo per server
        leva tutto il resto e vedi che i bug diminuiscono
        (e si può fare, conosco gente che ha fatto girare
        win2k su un p100, basta avere tanta ram), quindi
        sti post da
        pseudo-esperto-faccio-finta-di-sapere-tutto puoi
        risparmiarteli, poi se lavori per suse o altre
        società ti capisco, ti pagano ed è giustoBasterebbe rilasciare il SW dopo un periodo di test più lungo.In fondo XP non è che ha introdotto chissà quali rivoluzioni rispetto a Win 2000, potevano continuare ad aggiornare 2000 e far uscire XP un anno dopo.Tanto la concorrenza ha si e no il 10%, di cosa hanno paura?
    • corradolab scrive:
      Re: Tru64 ... NetBSD

      Però, una piccola domanda:
      Come mai non è win* a livello (non parlo di
      performance, stabilità o sicurezza) dei 2 o.s.
      citati sopra?
      - distro intera NetBsd - varie arch. - comprende
      alcuni CD-Rom, oltre al sistema molto sw
      aggiuntivo) 6 bug in tot.Veramente il numero che vedo quìhttp://www.netbsd.org/Gnats/è un po' più alto: 27.232 bugs riportati, cui 3.251 aperti.Da quanto vedo comprende i bug di tutte le versioni su tutte le piattaforme, ma in ogni caso siamo decisamente più alti del numero che segnali!
    • corradolab scrive:
      Re: Tru64 ... NetBSD

      Un service pack che corregge molti bug: OK brava
      M$ nel supporto!
      Però, una piccola domanda:
      Come mai non è win* a livello (non parlo di
      performance, stabilità o sicurezza) dei 2 o.s.
      citati sopra?
      - distro intera Tru64 - arch. Alpha - (comprende
      alcuni CD-Rom, oltre al sistema molto sw
      aggiuntivo) 3 bug in tot.Anche qui non trovo riscontro dei numeri che riportihttp://secunia.com/product/236 vulnerabilità nella sola versione 5.xSono decisamente più di 3, e non molto lontate dalle 46 di Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition.http://secunia.com/product/1173/Ci sono poi alcuni punti da chiarire:1. Mi sembra di capire che Tru64 giri solo su AlphaServer (che sono sistemi grandi come armadi e quando apri la porta c'è il tecnico HP dentro :-)) Quindi nessuna necessità di supportare centinaia di configurazioni hardware differenti.2. Il conteggio dei bugs è relativo alla versione "base" di Tru64. Installando ad esempio "KDE per Tru64" dovremmo sicuramente aggiungere qualcuno degli 8630 bugs aperti di KDE http://bugs.kde.org/weekly-bug-summary.cgiQuesto riapre la diatriba su cos'è "sistema operativo" e cos'è "software applicativo" e cosa sia lecito/giustificato installare su un server.
  • Anonimo scrive:
    Funziona ed e' bellissimo
    Per aumentare la sicurezza, cancella IE, Outlook e IIS, sostituendoli con ThunderBird, FireFox e Apache, e tra l'altro dopo diventa molto piu' veloce, ma non capisco perche' c'e' un cacchio di pinguino sullo sfondo e la barra ha una forma completamente diversa.Tra l'altro prima impiegava un sacco a fare tutte, mentre adesso e' straveloce... mah...
    • Anonimo scrive:
      Re: Funziona ed e' bellissimo
      - Scritto da: Anonimo
      Per aumentare la sicurezza, cancella IE, Outlook
      e IIS, sostituendoli con ThunderBird, FireFox e
      Apache, e tra l'altro dopo diventa molto piu'
      veloce, ma non capisco perche' c'e' un cacchio di
      pinguino sullo sfondo e la barra ha una forma
      completamente diversa.
      Tra l'altro prima impiegava un sacco a fare
      tutte, mentre adesso e' straveloce... mah...ehehe :)Cmq in fatto di velocità ThunderBird non mi sembra così veloce... Forse sono io che ho migliaia di email dentro, ma a me sembra abbastanza lento, soprattutto per gli accessi al disco
    • Anonimo scrive:
      Re: Funziona ed e' bellissimo
      - Scritto da: Anonimo
      Per aumentare la sicurezza, cancella IE, Outlook
      e IIS, sostituendoli con ThunderBird, FireFox e
      Apache, e tra l'altro dopo diventa molto piu'
      veloce, ma non capisco perche' c'e' un cacchio di
      pinguino sullo sfondo e la barra ha una forma
      completamente diversa.
      Tra l'altro prima impiegava un sacco a fare
      tutte, mentre adesso e' straveloce... mah...sarà ma ogni volta che provo una distro non ce nè una che sia veramenet veloce come dite.forse un athlon64 3000 con 1.2GB ram non è la macchina adatta.... ;)
      • Anonimo scrive:
        Re: Funziona ed e' bellissimo
        - Scritto da: Anonimo
        sarà ma ogni volta che provo una distro non ce nè
        una che sia veramenet veloce come dite.
        forse un athlon64 3000 con 1.2GB ram non è la
        macchina adatta.... ;)Linux era *molto* più veloce una volta ( prima versione provata: la yygdrasil, kernel 0.99, 10 anni fa, giusto per mettere le cose in chiaro ), veramente potevi metterlo su un PC vecchio e farci qualcosa.Oggi, per far concorrenza a Windows, insegue feature completamente inutili, solo a fini estetici per la GUI, peccato che "sotto" non ci sia un motore del livello di ( esempio ) Quartz Extreme, che si permette di fare effetti speciali inutili, certamente, ma che almeno non pesano così tanto.E non rispondete "metti su ICEWM o Windowmaker", il 90% degli utenti Linux usa Gnome o KDE...
        • Anonimo scrive:
          Re: Funziona ed e' bellissimo
          - Scritto da: Anonimo

          - Scritto da: Anonimo


          sarà ma ogni volta che provo una distro non ce


          una che sia veramenet veloce come dite.

          forse un athlon64 3000 con 1.2GB ram non è la

          macchina adatta.... ;)

          Linux era *molto* più veloce una volta ( prima
          versione provata: la yygdrasil, kernel 0.99, 10
          anni fa, giusto per mettere le cose in chiaro ),
          veramente potevi metterlo su un PC vecchio e
          farci qualcosa.

          Oggi, per far concorrenza a Windows, insegue
          feature completamente inutili, solo a fini
          estetici per la GUI, peccato che "sotto" non ci
          sia un motore del livello di ( esempio ) Quartz
          Extreme, che si permette di fare effetti speciali
          inutili, certamente, ma che almeno non pesano
          così tanto.
          eh, già ! è noto che Linux sia una Gui che segu fini estetici...
          E non rispondete "metti su ICEWM o Windowmaker",
          il 90% degli utenti Linux usa Gnome o KDE...
          figurati, io uso win98...
    • Anonimo scrive:
      Re: Funziona ed e' bellissimo

      Per aumentare la sicurezza, cancella IE, Outlook
      e IIS, sostituendoli con ThunderBird, FireFox e
      Apache, e tra l'altro dopo diventa molto piu'
      veloce, ma non capisco perche' c'e' un cacchio di
      pinguino sullo sfondo e la barra ha una forma
      completamente diversa.
      Tra l'altro prima impiegava un sacco a fare
      tutte, mentre adesso e' straveloce... mah...IE su 2003 e' locked downcioe non navighi da nessuna parte, nessun activex puo' essere esguito a meno che non si autorizzatoio l'ho installato su un server di sviluppo celeron 400 + 192 mb di ramfirefox e' una penalentissimoie invece va benepercio' credo che su macchine con scarsa dotazione firefox per ora non sia da consigliare
      • Anonimo scrive:
        Re: Funziona ed e' bellissimo
        - Scritto da: Anonimo

        Per aumentare la sicurezza, cancella IE, Outlook

        e IIS, sostituendoli con ThunderBird, FireFox e

        Apache, e tra l'altro dopo diventa molto piu'

        veloce, ma non capisco perche' c'e' un cacchio
        di

        pinguino sullo sfondo e la barra ha una forma

        completamente diversa.

        Tra l'altro prima impiegava un sacco a fare

        tutte, mentre adesso e' straveloce... mah...

        IE su 2003 e' locked down
        cioe non navighi da nessuna parte, nessun activex
        puo' essere esguito a meno che non si autorizzato
        io l'ho installato su un server di sviluppo
        celeron 400 + 192 mb di ram
        firefox e' una pena
        lentissimo
        ie invece va bene
        percio' credo che su macchine con scarsa
        dotazione firefox per ora non sia da consigliaresi ma devi migliorare il trolleggio, insomma dire che navighi usando un server fa un pò ridere e non riesce a scatenare il flame :D
  • Anonimo scrive:
    SP da remoto
    Qualcuno l'ha già installato completamente da remoto?Il firewall credo sia attivo di default dopo l'installazione, o no?
    • Anonimo scrive:
      Re: SP da remoto
      - Scritto da: Anonimo

      Il firewall credo sia attivo di default dopo
      l'installazione, o no?
      Credi male. Ragazzi andate a documentarvi sul sito Microsoft se dovete fare il deploy di un service pack, e soprattutto fatelo prima su server di test !!!. Di Microsoft si puo' dire peste e corna (il piu' delle volte a ragione) pero' su technet le patch ed i sp sono ben documentati. ;)
      • Anonimo scrive:
        Re: SP da remoto
        - Scritto da: Anonimo

        - Scritto da: Anonimo



        Il firewall credo sia attivo di default dopo

        l'installazione, o no?


        Credi male. Ragazzi andate a documentarvi sul
        sito Microsoft se dovete fare il deploy di un
        service pack, e soprattutto fatelo prima su
        server di test !!!. Di Microsoft si puo' dire
        peste e corna (il piu' delle volte a ragione)
        pero' su technet le patch ed i sp sono ben
        documentati. ;)Si ma il fatto è che avevo già provato su una macchina in locale, e dopo il riavvio il firewall era già attivo
  • carobeppe scrive:
    Appesantisce parecchio?
    Visto che in molti l'hanno già provato, appesantisce parecchio il sistema in termini di ram richiesta e di processore? Io ho w2k3 server installato su una macchinetta da 40 euro (celeron 366, 192 mb di ram) che mi funge da router per la lan, server di stampa ecc... ecc... . Visto che ad ogni modifica degli OS la microsoft tende ad appesantire le cose sapete mica di quanto è più pesante?
    • Anonimo scrive:
      Re: Appesantisce parecchio?
      - Scritto da: carobeppe
      Visto che ad ogni modifica degli OS la microsoft tende ad
      appesantire le cose sapete mica di quanto è più
      pesante?su macchine vecchie 2003 e' meno pesante di 2000, se non altro perche' il secondo per default fa partire quasi tutti i servizi, il prima no--tinto
    • The_Stinger scrive:
      Re: Appesantisce parecchio?
      - Scritto da: carobeppe
      Io ho w2k3 server
      installato su una macchinetta da 40 euro (celeron
      366, 192 mb di ram) che mi funge da router per la
      lan, server di stampa ecc... ecc...L'ho installato ieri sera su un P III 500 192 mb ram e va da Dio.
      • Anonimo scrive:
        Re: Appesantisce parecchio?
        immagino che pagate le licenze, anche se lo utilizzate solo come server di stampa :rolleyes:
        • Anonimo scrive:
          Re: Appesantisce parecchio?
          - Scritto da: Anonimo
          immagino che pagate le licenze, anche se lo
          utilizzate solo come server di stampa :rolleyes:Certo, licenza studenti/docenti, perchè?
          • corradolab scrive:
            Re: Appesantisce parecchio?

            E' buona solo per giocare... @^Veramente sarebbe per le aule/laboratori di informatica, sai quei posti dove ci sono i docenti che insegnano e gli studenti che imparano ;-)
  • Anonimo scrive:
    non va mica tutto liscio...
    http://forums.isaserver.org/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=19;t=000695#000023
  • Anonimo scrive:
    e doveva essere sicuro?
    si si certo ^_^
  • Anonimo scrive:
    Dave Probert
    Premesse:1) non sono un dipedente microsoft2) conosco ed uso Windows e Linux3) penso che prima o poi mi comprerò un Mac4) W l'open sourcequi:http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=53470ho trotavo un'intervista video di Dave Probert architetto del kernel di windows.da quel poco che ho capito (ho problemi con l'americano parlato) mi sembra interessante, di parte, ma interessante!Qualcuno se la sente di scrivere, a grosse linee, quello che ha detto di più interessante???Forse chiedo troppo :)
  • Anonimo scrive:
    Sembra notevole
    Sembra veramente notevole. L'ho già installato su un paio di server e l'impressione è buona. Penso che domani lo estenderò ad altre macchine più critiche.
    • Anonimo scrive:
      Re: Sembra notevole
      - Scritto da: Anonimo
      Sembra veramente notevole. L'ho già installato su
      un paio di server e l'impressione è buona. Penso
      che domani lo estenderò ad altre macchine più
      critiche.Mi preoccupa un po' il firewall....Dimmi una cosa che l'hai già installato, parte disattivato spero...
      • Anonimo scrive:
        Re: Sembra notevole
        - Scritto da: Anonimo


        - Scritto da: Anonimo

        Mi preoccupa un po' il firewall....

        Dimmi una cosa che l'hai già installato, parte
        disattivato spero...Windows Firewall per Win2003sp1 e' disattivato di default.
    • Anonimo scrive:
      Re: Sembra notevole
      - Scritto da: Anonimo
      Sembra veramente notevole. L'ho già installato su
      un paio di server e l'impressione è buona. Penso
      che domani lo estenderò ad altre macchine più
      critiche.Si, prima pero' verifico se non ci sono casini come qualche volta succede, faccio passare almeno qualche giorno e vedo cosa dicono un po' tutti. A te fila bene?
    • Anonimo scrive:
      Re: Sembra notevole
      E' disponibile già in Italiano?
  • Anonimo scrive:
    e il service pack 5 per 2000 ????????
    2000 server e 2000pro service pack 5 dove diavolo sono????????????
    • Zeross scrive:
      Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ????????
      - Scritto da: Anonimo
      2000 server e 2000pro service pack 5 dove diavolo
      sono????????????Guarda che il SP5 per Win2K è stato cancellato mesi orsono... le ultime notizie davano per certa la realizzazione di un Rollup Pack per quest'estate, ma ancora non si è sentito nulla al riguardo, e siamo già ad aprile...
      • Anonimo scrive:
        Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ????????
        2000 è un s.o. oramai vecchiotto. Conviene migrare i server a 2003.
        • Anonimo scrive:
          Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
          - Scritto da: Anonimo
          2000 è un s.o. oramai vecchiotto. Conviene
          migrare i server a 2003.
          Conviene :-) ? Alla m$ senz'altro, agli utenti per nulla.
        • Vide scrive:
          Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
          - Scritto da: Anonimo
          2000 è un s.o. oramai vecchiotto. Conviene
          migrare i server a 2003.ROTFLe perché, di grazia, io (generico) dovrei pagare una nuova licenza se il server gira bene per quel che devo fare?
          • Anonimo scrive:
            Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
            - Scritto da: Vide

            - Scritto da: Anonimo

            2000 è un s.o. oramai vecchiotto. Conviene

            migrare i server a 2003.

            ROTFL
            e perché, di grazia, io (generico) dovrei pagare
            una nuova licenza se il server gira bene per quel
            che devo fare?ma infatti nessuno ti obbliga a fare l'upgrade verso il 2003tra l'altro le patches critiche per windows 2000 pro/server verranno distribuite ancora per molto tempo
          • carobeppe scrive:
            Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
            - Scritto da: Anonimo

            - Scritto da: Vide



            - Scritto da: Anonimo


            2000 è un s.o. oramai vecchiotto. Conviene


            migrare i server a 2003.



            ROTFL

            e perché, di grazia, io (generico) dovrei pagare

            una nuova licenza se il server gira bene per
            quel

            che devo fare?

            ma infatti nessuno ti obbliga a fare l'upgrade
            verso il 2003

            tra l'altro le patches critiche per windows 2000
            pro/server verranno distribuite ancora per molto
            temposi... ma i ricambi della 500 non li trovi più tanto facilmente e se ti rivolgi alla fiat dicendo che hai rotto il motore del cinquino ti dicono di comprarti la nuova punto
          • Gallone scrive:
            Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
            - Scritto da: carobeppe
            si... ma i ricambi della 500 non li trovi più
            tanto facilmente e se ti rivolgi alla fiat
            dicendo che hai rotto il motore del cinquino ti
            dicono di comprarti la nuova puntoLa 500 non la producono più da ben 31 annihttp://www.500clubitalia.it/modelli/modelli.php?caso=1&id_argomento=2331 anni di vita per un' automobile mi sembrano molti di più che 4 per un sistema operativo server non credi?
          • Anonimo scrive:
            Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
            win2k è uscito nel 1999 quindi ha 6anni
          • Anonimo scrive:
            Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
            - Scritto da: Anonimo
            win2k è uscito nel 1999 quindi ha 6anniDimenticavo del sistema " ad minchiam " che la M$ usa per dare i nomi degli anni alle relase !
          • Zeross scrive:
            Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
            - Scritto da: Anonimo
            win2k è uscito nel 1999 quindi ha 6anniSbagliato.E' stato rilasciato per la manifattura a metà dicembre del 1999, ma è stato commercializzato a partire dal 17 febbraio 2000.Preinstallato invece lo si poteva già trovare intorno al 5 Gennaio 2000.
          • Anonimo scrive:
            Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
            è comunque stato concepito nel 1999...quando è uscito non è molto rilevante
          • Anonimo scrive:
            Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
            Più che concepito è stato un aborto
    • riddler scrive:
      Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
      - Scritto da: Anonimo
      2000 server e 2000pro service pack 5 dove diavolo
      sono????????????Per carita'... Se fosse come l'sp2 per xp meglio di no.
      • Anonimo scrive:
        Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
        - Scritto da: riddler
        Per carita'... Se fosse come l'sp2 per xp meglio
        di no.sei di una ignoranza...
      • Anonimo scrive:
        Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
        - Scritto da: riddler

        - Scritto da: Anonimo

        2000 server e 2000pro service pack 5 dove
        diavolo

        sono????????????

        Per carita'... Se fosse come l'sp2 per xp meglio
        di no.Mah, io sarò anche un utonto medio come direbbero i simpatici linuxari.Ma da quando ho installato il sp2 di xp non ho più avuto un problema che è uno con il PC.(ovviamente in abbinamento con i vari antivirus, antispy ecc, ecc.)Mi sa che parli tanto per parlare...
        • Anonimo scrive:
          Re: e il service pack 5 per 2000 ???????
          - Scritto da: Anonimo

          - Scritto da: riddler



          - Scritto da: Anonimo


          2000 server e 2000pro service pack 5 dove

          diavolo


          sono????????????



          Per carita'... Se fosse come l'sp2 per xp meglio

          di no.

          Mah, io sarò anche un utonto medio come direbbero
          i simpatici linuxari.
          Ma da quando ho installato il sp2 di xp non ho
          più avuto un problema che è uno con il PC.

          (ovviamente in abbinamento con i vari antivirus,
          antispy ecc, ecc.)

          Mi sa che parli tanto per parlare...Non so cosa dirti, per me i problemi sono cominciati con l'installazione della SP2 (correttamente effettuata, specifico), a livello di compatibilità software e non solo. Ci sarà anche gente che parla tanto per parlare, non dico di no, ma che la SP2 risolva IN ASSOLUTO i problemi di quello sfortunatissimo e superpatchato SO che è Xp mi sembra una conclusione un po' sbrigativa. Per quanto mi riguarda, lunga vita a Windows 2000.
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