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Giustizia!
Sarebbe anche ora che qualcuno vigilasse sulla rete, che filtrasse tutti i contenuti illeciti, e tutti i contenuti non approrpiati dal punto di vista morale!Mi auguro che nostro Signore Gesu' Cristo aiuti gli americani ad estendere il loro sano controllo su tutto il mondo!

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- Scritto da: Gigi> Sarebbe anche ora che qualcuno vigilasse sulla> rete, che filtrasse tutti i contenuti illeciti, e> tutti i contenuti non approrpiati dal punto di> vista> morale!> Mi auguro che nostro Signore Gesu' Cristo aiuti> gli americani ad estendere il loro sano controllo> su tutto il> mondo!So che sei un troll, ma sto approfittando di te per far passare le mie idee in proposito. Chi non vuole commettere illeciti non lo fa, anzi: man mano che l'offerta legale di contenuti si amplia è ben disposto a pagare un prezzo equo (sottolineato 300 volte) per un film/telefilm/altro.Chi se ne fotte si divide in 10 categorie: gli idioti e tutti gli altri.Gli idioti saranno catturati e buttati fuori dalla rete.Gli altri useranno sistemi crittografici sempre più evoluti, difese via via più robuste, fino a diventare "invisibili".Il guaio è che selezionando gli "idioti" e impedendogli l'acXXXXX alla rete, permetti a "tutti gli altri" di organizzarsi meglio.Quando agli idioti sarà nuovamente permesso di accedere, se troveranno un'offerta di contenuti adatta alle loro possibilità, ci si butteranno a pesce, se (come penso) non ci sarà niente del genere... I provider registreranno nuovi incrementi nella domanda di banda e di connettività sia dovuti ai servizi "leciti" sia dovuti allo sharing selvaggio che prenderà nuove vie. Un bit di dati copyrighted è indistinguibile da un bit di dati leciti, qualunque tentativo di bloccare lo scambio di informazioni si risolverà con conseguenze negative per chi vuole attuare il blocco.Grazie alla selezione naturale gentilmente offerta dalle lobby del copyright, il risultato finale produrrà sistemi di scambio dati ancora più robusti e di difficile (se non impossibile) identificazione.L'unica soluzione sarebbe chiudere la rete, ma vedi bene che è piuttosto difficile da attuare.Non puoi vincereNon puoi pareggiareNon puoi nemmeno abbandonareGT

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- Scritto da: Guybrush> - Scritto da: Gigi> > Sarebbe anche ora che qualcuno vigilasse sulla> > rete, che filtrasse tutti i contenuti illeciti,> e> > tutti i contenuti non approrpiati dal punto di> > vista> > morale!> > Mi auguro che nostro Signore Gesu' Cristo aiuti> > gli americani ad estendere il loro sano> controllo> > su tutto il> > mondo!> So che sei un troll, ma sto approfittando di te> per far passare le mie idee in proposito.> > Chi non vuole commettere illeciti non lo fa,> anzi: man mano che l'offerta legale di contenuti> si amplia è ben disposto a pagare un prezzo equo> (sottolineato 300 volte) per un> film/telefilm/altro.> > Chi se ne fotte si divide in 10 categorie: gli> idioti e tutti gli> altri.> Gli idioti saranno catturati e buttati fuori> dalla> rete.> Gli altri useranno sistemi crittografici sempre> più evoluti, difese via via più robuste, fino a> diventare> "invisibili".> > Il guaio è che selezionando gli "idioti" e> impedendogli l'acXXXXX alla rete, permetti a> "tutti gli altri" di organizzarsi> meglio.> Quando agli idioti sarà nuovamente permesso di> accedere, se troveranno un'offerta di contenuti> adatta alle loro possibilità, ci si butteranno a> pesce, se (come penso) non ci sarà niente del> genere...> > > I provider registreranno nuovi incrementi nella> domanda di banda e di connettività sia dovuti ai> servizi "leciti" sia dovuti allo sharing> selvaggio che prenderà nuove vie. Un bit di dati> copyrighted è indistinguibile da un bit di dati> leciti, qualunque tentativo di bloccare lo> scambio di informazioni si risolverà con> conseguenze negative per chi vuole attuare il> blocco.> Grazie alla selezione naturale gentilmente> offerta dalle lobby del copyright, il risultato> finale produrrà sistemi di scambio dati ancora> più robusti e di difficile (se non impossibile)> identificazione.> L'unica soluzione sarebbe chiudere la rete, ma> vedi bene che è piuttosto difficile da> attuare.> Non puoi vincere> Non puoi pareggiare> Non puoi nemmeno abbandonare> > > GTLa storia del mondo non ti da ragione, la continua lotta tra misure, aggiramento e nuove misure e nuovi aggiramenti finisce sempre con la sconfitta dei cattivi, come in ogni film americano. Non sarei sicuro della invisibilità, perchè è dimostrato che se motivati, i controllori risolvono casi ben più complicati di quelli che hai descritto, è una questioni di mezzi, che loro hanno senza limiti. Ma a parte l'aspetto tecnico che cambierà ogni giorno, non puoi pensare che sia inutile mettere una porta blindata dal momento che qualcuno sa come aprirla e allora tanto vale lasciare la porta aperta, semmai penserei ad una porta più sicura della prima, uno stato non può fare diversamente, anche continuando a perdere non può mollare.

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L'alternativa proposta da questo attempato signore é aspettare che passino i film su canale 5 (sic!!!) ci rendiamo conto?Questa é gente che se venisse inventato il teletrasporto ordinerebbe di smantellarlo per tutelare ferrovie e autobus

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- Scritto da: Allibito> La storia del mondo non ti da ragione, la> continua lotta tra misure, aggiramento e nuove> misure e nuovi aggiramenti finisce sempre con la> sconfitta dei cattivi, come in ogni film> americano. Si ma molte volte i cattvi nei film/fumetti sono dei personaggi, potenti, ricchi e avidi che vogliono ottenere tutto con qualsiasi mezzo calpestando i più deboli, a me ricordano qualcuno... ;)Ecco un esempio:Lex Luthor = Major avide, prepotenti che usano ogni mezzo per ottenere quello che vogliono. Nei film e fumetto Lex e cattivo o buono? ;)

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- Scritto da: Allibito> La storia del mondo non ti da ragione, la> continua lotta tra misure, aggiramento e nuove> misure e nuovi aggiramenti finisce sempre con la> sconfitta dei cattivi, come in ogni film> americano. Mi sono un po' seccato dell'inutile diatriba condotta dai pirate-haters, ma prendo spunto da questa tua frase per fare una riflessione.In sincerità, al di là delle opinioni diverse che possiamo avere sul file sharing, tu credi davvero che in questo mondo, i cattivi perdono e i buoni vincono alla fine?Non so se invidiarti o provare pena per te, perchè a me sembra che in questo mondo di melmstrom siano sempre i cattivi a vincere e che, a dirla tutta, di buoni in giro ce n'è davvero pochi.Anzi per essere precisi, non mi pare che la distinzione tra gli uni e gli altri sia poi così netta e trovo che sia infantile, semplicistico e consolotario voler categorizzare in questo modo gli esseri umani.Il fatto che i film americani rappresentino la realtà in questo modo mi pare, semmai, la conferma del contrario. Quello non solo è un popolo infantile, ignorante e sempliciotto ma è anche governato e organizzato dai + arroganti e spavaldi furbacchioni che la storia abbia mai prodotto, che hanno tutto l'interesse a tranquillizzare la gente, dicendo "tranquilli i buoni vincono sempre, e i buoni siamo noi".Francamente quando si supera l'adolescenza e si crede ancora che ci siano i buoni e i cattivi, e che i buoni alla fine vincono, per me significa che il proXXXXX di maturazione e cresctia mentale, culturale e filosofica si sia arrestato anzitempo. E trovo spaventoso che tanti preadolescenti mentali abbiano, per esempio, diritto di voto.Visto che ti piacciono i film, ricorda l'ultima frase che rivolge al dittatore africano il suo medico personale ne "l'ultimo re di scozia": Tu sei un bambino, ed è questo che terrorizza.

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Però c'è un problema ad oggi le comunicazioni crittografate rispetto a quelle non, rappresentano solo una piccola frazione. Nessun utente "normale" ne ha bisogno, quindi se qualcuno per motivi di polizia deve fare delle indagini deve quantomeno cercare in un piccolo contenitore. Se si continua di questo passo anche il figlio della casalinga di voghera utilizzerà le comunicazioni criptate per vedere il catalogo di MW, rendendo così ancora più anonime le connessioni legate a comportamenti criminali. Io non ho la soluzione al problema, ma bisogna fare attenzione a dove si spinge la gente, in quanto il danno potrebbe essere di ordini di grandezza maggiore di quello che si vorrebbe evitare.

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> La storia del mondo non ti da ragione, la> continua lotta tra misure, aggiramento e nuove> misure e nuovi aggiramenti finisce sempre con la> sconfitta dei cattiviPeccato che per ognuna delle parti il cattivo è l'altro.>, come in ogni film> americano.Il film viene girato solo dopo che la guerra è finita... e viene girato da chi ha vinto. Perciò il cattivo sarà sempre lo sconfitto.> Non sarei sicuro della invisibilità,> perchè è dimostrato che se motivati, i> controllori risolvono casi ben più complicati di> quelli che hai descrittoE i controllori non sono mai motivati, nel campo della pirateria, perchè spesso e volentieri sono loro i primi a piratare.>, è una questioni di> mezzi, che loro hanno senza limiti. Dove hai preso questa informazione, su Topolino?> Ma a parte> l'aspetto tecnico che cambierà ogni giorno, non> puoi pensare che sia inutile mettere una porta> blindata dal momento che qualcuno sa come aprirlaNo, ma penso che sia inutile mettere una porta blindata quando ci sono 20 finestre aperte.

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- Scritto da: Allibito> - Scritto da: Guybrush> > - Scritto da: Gigi> > > Sarebbe anche ora che qualcuno vigilasse sulla> > > rete, che filtrasse tutti i contenuti> illeciti,> > e> > > tutti i contenuti non approrpiati dal punto di> > > vista> > > morale!> > > Mi auguro che nostro Signore Gesu' Cristo> aiuti> > > gli americani ad estendere il loro sano> > controllo> > > su tutto il> > > mondo!> > So che sei un troll, ma sto approfittando di te> > per far passare le mie idee in proposito.> > > > Chi non vuole commettere illeciti non lo fa,> > anzi: man mano che l'offerta legale di contenuti> > si amplia è ben disposto a pagare un prezzo equo> > (sottolineato 300 volte) per un> > film/telefilm/altro.> > > > Chi se ne fotte si divide in 10 categorie: gli> > idioti e tutti gli> > altri.> > Gli idioti saranno catturati e buttati fuori> > dalla> > rete.> > Gli altri useranno sistemi crittografici sempre> > più evoluti, difese via via più robuste, fino a> > diventare> > "invisibili".> > > > Il guaio è che selezionando gli "idioti" e> > impedendogli l'acXXXXX alla rete, permetti a> > "tutti gli altri" di organizzarsi> > meglio.> > Quando agli idioti sarà nuovamente permesso di> > accedere, se troveranno un'offerta di contenuti> > adatta alle loro possibilità, ci si butteranno a> > pesce, se (come penso) non ci sarà niente del> > genere...> > > > > > I provider registreranno nuovi incrementi nella> > domanda di banda e di connettività sia dovuti ai> > servizi "leciti" sia dovuti allo sharing> > selvaggio che prenderà nuove vie. Un bit di dati> > copyrighted è indistinguibile da un bit di dati> > leciti, qualunque tentativo di bloccare lo> > scambio di informazioni si risolverà con> > conseguenze negative per chi vuole attuare il> > blocco.> > Grazie alla selezione naturale gentilmente> > offerta dalle lobby del copyright, il risultato> > finale produrrà sistemi di scambio dati ancora> > più robusti e di difficile (se non impossibile)> > identificazione.> > L'unica soluzione sarebbe chiudere la rete, ma> > vedi bene che è piuttosto difficile da> > attuare.> > Non puoi vincere> > Non puoi pareggiare> > Non puoi nemmeno abbandonare> > > > > > GT> La storia del mondo non ti da ragione, la> continua lotta tra misure, aggiramento e nuove> misure e nuovi aggiramenti finisce sempre con la> sconfitta dei cattivi, come in ogni film> americano. Non sarei sicuro della invisibilità,> perchè è dimostrato che se motivati, i> controllori risolvono casi ben più complicati di> quelli che hai descritto, è una questioni di> mezzi, che loro hanno senza limiti. Ma a parte> l'aspetto tecnico che cambierà ogni giorno, non> puoi pensare che sia inutile mettere una porta> blindata dal momento che qualcuno sa come aprirla> e allora tanto vale lasciare la porta aperta,> semmai penserei ad una porta più sicura della> prima, uno stato non può fare diversamente, anche> continuando a perdere non può> mollare.Poi però resti con l'uccello in mano perchè sono entrati dalla finestra.

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> La storia del mondo non ti da ragione, la> continua lotta tra misure, aggiramento e nuove> misure e nuovi aggiramenti finisce sempre con la> sconfitta dei cattivi, come in ogni filmMa i cattivi sono i difensori del copyright.E fanno di tutto per apparire tali. Mi spiace.

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Se esiste un dio giusto, tutta questa gente brucierà all'inferno e tu con essi.

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Non vedo cosa c'entri gesù cristo in tutto questo, qua si parla a mio avviso di persone che limitano il web per scopi di lucro.Prega più tosto affinché un domani con internet lo stato non controlli la tua vita...Non vedo uno scenario molto piacevole...Vorrei offrirvi una provocazione costruttiva ipotizzando uno scenario in cui un sistema informatico sappia cosa facciate controllando la carte di credito, spiando cosa vedete su youtube e quale tipo di musica ascoltate.Magari proteggendo una forma di dittatura. voi pensate che questo scenario sia molto prossimo e considerate il suo effetto sulla democrazia.

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- Scritto da: achero> Non vedo cosa c'entri gesù cristo in tutto> questo, qua si parla a mio avviso di persone che> limitano il web per scopi di> lucro.Gesu' c'entra... perche' è stato il PRIMO PIRATA della storia... duplicava SENZA autorizzazione pani e pesci...:)

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lol :D

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MA ROTFLISSIMOOOOOIMMENSO :-)

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vecchia :D e da 10 anni che senso questa cosa su gesù :D

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bravo bravo e XXXXX il tuo dio! ciao

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muori bigotto di XXXXX

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- Scritto da: gino> muori bigotto di XXXXXCristo non hai capito niente e pensare che l'avrebbero capito il bue, l'asinello e pure la XXXXXXX !!!Ora so che dio e' ovunque, quindi e' anche XXXXX, ma solo perche' scrivo XXXXX dio non sono un probo che sta pregando, hai capito ? Cristo !

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- Scritto da: gino> muori bigotto di XXXXXCristo ti perdonerà.

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- Scritto da: Gigi> Mi auguro che nostro Signore Gesu' Cristo aiuti> gli americani ad estendere il loro sano controllo> su tutto il mondo!Giusto.Così magari la smettiamo pure con quel Darwin...

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- Scritto da: Gigi[CUT!]> Mi auguro che nostro Signore Gesu' Cristo aiuti> gli americani ad estendere il loro sano controllo> su tutto il> mondo!naaah. Gesu' è nulla in confronto a Dio[img]http://www.direttanews.it/wp-content/uploads/ronnie_james_dio_sp.jpg[/img] p)

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- Scritto da: Gigi> Sarebbe anche ora che qualcuno vigilasse sulla> rete,sarebbe anche ora che qualcuno vigilasse sui prepotenti!

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- Scritto da: Gigi> Sarebbe anche ora che qualcuno vigilasse sulla> rete, che filtrasse tutti i contenuti illeciti, e> tutti i contenuti non approrpiati dal punto di> vista> morale!> Mi auguro che nostro Signore Gesu' Cristo aiuti> gli americani ad estendere il loro sano controllo> su tutto il> mondo!io mi accontenterei se ti chiamasse immediatamente alla Sua destra. contento tu, e contenti noi.

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- Scritto da: unaDuraLezione> - Scritto da: iome> > > io mi accontenterei se ti chiamasse> > immediatamente alla Sua destra. contento tu,> e> > contenti> > noi.> > io non ho mai capito cosa c'è alla sinistra del> signore...niente, e' monco.

VIOLAZIONE DEI DIRITTI UMANI
Questa è una violazione dei diritti umani. Con quale diritto possono levarmi la connessione ?Con quale DIRITTO vogliono violare la mia privacy ? Prevedo che quei ISP perderanno un mucchio di clienti.....

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- Scritto da: Sgabbio> Questa è una violazione dei diritti umani. Con> quale diritto possono levarmi la connessione> ?> Con quale DIRITTO vogliono violare la mia privacyCon il diritto del denaro, che dice che chi ha più soldi di te è più importante di te.> ? Prevedo che quei ISP perderanno un mucchio di> clienti.....Quando tutti gli ISP adotteranno la stessa politica, volenti o nolenti, non ci sarà scelta.Il denaro ha vinto, come sempre.Rassegnati.

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- Scritto da: Get Real> - Scritto da: Sgabbio[...] Rassegnati.L'economia vince sempre.Il mercato vince sempre.Il denaro è solo un mezzo e rappresenta per economia e mercati quel che l'energia rappresenta per Fisica e Leggi.Rassegnati.Non puoi vincereNon puoi PareggiareNon puoi nemmeno abbandonareVale per la termodinamica, funziona uguale anche per l'economia, si chiama entropia, non la cambi con le pressioni delle lobby.GT

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> > ? Prevedo che quei ISP perderanno un mucchio di> > clienti.....> > Quando tutti gli ISP adotteranno la stessa> politica, volenti o nolenti, non ci sarà> scelta.I primi che la adotteranno falliranno, e gli altri, che avranno più denaro, non seguiranno il loro esempio.Oppure, semplicemente, spariranno i provider e si passerà solo più alle reti wifi.

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vi spaccheranno il c......................o era ora

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aspetta e spera videotecaro di XXXXX devi morire cane XXXXXXXX spero che la tua videoteca fallisca e che tu vada a vivere sotto un ponte. XXXXX.

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- Scritto da: Sgabbio> Questa è una violazione dei diritti umani. Con> quale diritto possono levarmi la connessione> ?> Con quale DIRITTO vogliono violare la mia privacy> ? Prevedo che quei ISP perderanno un mucchio di> clienti.....Con lo stesso diritto per cui esiste il sequestro se fai un uso improprio di un'auto o se fai una discarica abusiva sul tuo terreno. Non è vietato andate in moto, ma se la usi per fare scippi, te la tolgono. Aldilà di pareri personali e discorsi filosofici, rimane sempre che con le attuali leggi siano proibiti certi comportamenti sul web e applicarle non dovrebbe apparire così strano.Per quello che riguarda i clienti, sarei d'accordo se fosse uno a filtrare e gli altri no, ma essendo costretti tutti non si ha scelta e oggi rinunceresti all'acXXXXX alla rete solo perchè non si scarica più? Prevedo zero disdette, non siamo più in grado di farne a meno.

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- Scritto da: Allibito> Con lo stesso diritto per cui esiste il sequestro> se fai un uso improprio di un'auto o se fai una> discarica abusiva sul tuo terreno. Non è vietato> andate in moto, ma se la usi per fare scippi, te> la tolgono. Aldilà di pareri personali e discorsi> filosofici, rimane sempre che con le attuali> leggi siano proibiti certi comportamenti sul web> e applicarle non dovrebbe apparire così> strano.> Per quello che riguarda i clienti, sarei> d'accordo se fosse uno a filtrare e gli altri no,> ma essendo costretti tutti non si ha scelta e> oggi rinunceresti all'acXXXXX alla rete solo> perchè non si scarica più? Prevedo zero disdette,> non siamo più in grado di farne a> meno.Sei fuori di testa o cosa ? Quale parte di "aziende private" si arrogano il diritto di levarti via la connessione per far contente altre aziende private ? Non mi sembra che se uso la vespa per schippare ad esempio, arrivi poi uno della vespa che mi blocca il motorino, senza nemmeno un proXXXXX....Svegliati, perfavore, che stai paragonando due cose totalmente differenti.

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non ti puoi aspettare altro da uno (C)-slave

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- Scritto da: Sgabbio> - Scritto da: Allibito> > > Con lo stesso diritto per cui esiste il> sequestro> > se fai un uso improprio di un'auto o se fai una> > discarica abusiva sul tuo terreno. Non è vietato> > andate in moto, ma se la usi per fare scippi, te> > la tolgono. Aldilà di pareri personali e> discorsi> > filosofici, rimane sempre che con le attuali> > leggi siano proibiti certi comportamenti sul web> > e applicarle non dovrebbe apparire così> > strano.> > Per quello che riguarda i clienti, sarei> > d'accordo se fosse uno a filtrare e gli altri> no,> > ma essendo costretti tutti non si ha scelta e> > oggi rinunceresti all'acXXXXX alla rete solo> > perchè non si scarica più? Prevedo zero> disdette,> > non siamo più in grado di farne a> > meno.> > Sei fuori di testa o cosa ? Quale parte di> "aziende private" si arrogano il diritto di> levarti via la connessione per far contente altre> aziende private ?> > Non mi sembra che se uso la vespa per schippare> ad esempio, arrivi poi uno della vespa che mi> blocca il motorino, senza nemmeno un> proXXXXX....> > Svegliati, perfavore, che stai paragonando due> cose totalmente> differenti.Svegliati e documentati, il mezzo viene sequestrato subito e senza proXXXXX, semmai, nel proXXXXX viene discusso il dissequestro.Si parla di uso palesemente illecito, come nel filesharing.

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- Scritto da: Allibito> - Scritto da: Sgabbio> > Questa è una violazione dei diritti umani. Con> > quale diritto possono levarmi la connessione> > ?> > Con quale DIRITTO vogliono violare la mia> privacy> > ? Prevedo che quei ISP perderanno un mucchio di> > clienti.....> Con lo stesso diritto per cui esiste il sequestro> se fai un uso improprio di un'auto o se fai una> discarica abusiva sul tuo terreno. Non è vietato> andate in moto, ma se la usi per fare scippi, te> la tolgono. Aldilà di pareri personali e discorsi> filosofici, rimane sempre che con le attuali> leggi siano proibiti certi comportamenti sul web> e applicarle non dovrebbe apparire così> strano.> Per quello che riguarda i clienti, sarei> d'accordo se fosse uno a filtrare e gli altri no,> ma essendo costretti tutti non si ha scelta e> oggi rinunceresti all'acXXXXX alla rete solo> perchè non si scarica più? Prevedo zero disdette,> non siamo più in grado di farne a meno.Fastweb andrebbe in rovina, un bel risparmio per le famiglie tornare a una 7 mega.

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7 mega? ... per gli usi non legati allo scarico pesante 1Mbit/s è già sufficiente... e magari ad avere amici è più divertente. Un tempo la botta di vita erano 640 Kbit/s, ma non c'era problema. Le offerte da 20 Mbit/s "se le possono mettere da dove gli sono uscite" (Matrix) ... cosa che con parole pulite dico a chi cerca di propinarmi ADSL veloci ;)

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> Per quello che riguarda i clienti, sarei> d'accordo se fosse uno a filtrare e gli altri no,> ma essendo costretti tutti non si ha scelta e> oggi rinunceresti all'acXXXXX alla rete solo> perchè non si scarica più?Sì: molti si accontenterebbero della connessione con limite di un giga fornita dal cellulare, o della tariffa a consumo a 56k.> Prevedo zero disdette,> non siamo più in grado di farne a> meno.Le disdette delle linee flat sarebbero parecchie.

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- Scritto da: uno qualsiasi> > Per quello che riguarda i clienti, sarei> > d'accordo se fosse uno a filtrare e gli> altri> no,> > ma essendo costretti tutti non si ha scelta e> > oggi rinunceresti all'acXXXXX alla rete solo> > perchè non si scarica più?> > Sì: molti si accontenterebbero della connessione> con limite di un giga fornita dal cellulare, o> della tariffa a consumo a> 56k.> > > Prevedo zero disdette,> > non siamo più in grado di farne a> > meno.> > Le disdette delle linee flat sarebbero parecchie.considerando gli svantaggi per molti.

Re: VIOLAZIONE DEI DIRITTI UMANI
paragoni a minkiam, una cosa del genere può essere paragonata a un tizio fuori dalla porta che prima di darti una lettera indirizzata a te la legge per vedere se sei un possibile criminale oppure no.Questo è il deep inspection e in Francia dopo l'attuazione della legge sarkazu il p2p anonimo è cresciuto del 90% praticamente la maggior parte del materiale che si trova con facilità su stealthnet è francese (provate a fare una ricerca),l'unico motivo per cui non se ne sono accorti è che non è tracciabile, quelle sono reti che non puoi fermare con una denuncia o sniffando la connessione, e più persone le usano meglio funzionano.Inutile dire che i criminali (quelli veri) ci vanno a nozze con queste cose.Che ve lo dico a fa che se lo stanno mettendo nel didietro da soli e francamente sono felice.

Re: VIOLAZIONE DEI DIRITTI UMANI
- Scritto da: Allibito> Prevedo zero disdette,> non siamo più in grado di farne a> meno.disdette? quali disdette? che bisogno c'è di disdire quando è sufficiente rivolgersi a sistemi cifrati e completamente anonimi con un click?imho, quello che sta succedendo è la solita storia del "gatto col topo".da una parte si spinge per leggi e punizioni sempre più dure, mentre dall'altra c'è la massa di gente che fa di tutto per aggirare/sfuggire a quelli leggi, pur continuando a fare quello che faceva prima.quando si accorgeranno che anche queste "nuove" regole e sanzioni non sortiranno gli effetti sperati, allora ne passeranno altre ancora più severe; fino a quando, ad un certo punto, "scaricare" a proprio nome o dalla propria connessione (anche tramite darknet, ecc.) diventerà troppo pericoloso.ma tu pensi che allora gente smetterà di scaricare? certo che no!semplicemente si comincerà a "rubare" la connessione del vicino, di modo tale che così ci va di mezzo un innocente che non c'entra nulla.ma forse capirai il futuro che ti stai prospettando soltanto quando ti staccheranno internet all'improvviso e ti arresteranno SOLO perché qualcuno ha usato la tua connessione per scaricare. <i> forse allora capirai... </i>

In Italia c'è l'abbiamo già a gratis
"soffocamento della banda, disconnessione dal web, sospensione dell'account"descrive perfettamente la tragicomica situazione dei provider in italia

Re: In Italia c'è l'abbiamo già a gratis
Ah si? E chi è l'ISP?

Re: In Italia c'è l'abbiamo già a gratis
Era una battuta, per dire che abbiamo delle linee cosi penose, che la velocità di degrada da sola.

Re: In Italia c'è l'abbiamo già a gratis
Epic fail, mio!Eppura dal mobile si capiva proprio il senso della mia domanda... ah devo cambiare pusher!!! :D

ehm...
Qualcuno glielo va a dire a Sarkò ed agli americani che i Francesi sono passati tutti a reti cifrate/darknet/VPN dopo HADOPI?Comunque quoto quello che ha detto Guybrush.PS: for teh lulz, era il mio nick che usavo prima di recuperare la password (oppure quando non ho voglia di loggarmi)EDIT 1: Aggiungo un osservazione, magari anche a coloro a favore di questi leggi.1) Perchè non vedono di rivedere il copyright? 70 anni, sono veramente necessari? Perchè non metterne al massimo 10, e dopo l'opera può essere distribuita senza limitazioni per non a scopo di lucro?-----------------------------------------------------------Modificato dall' autore il 16 marzo 2012 11.13-----------------------------------------------------------

Re: ehm...
- Scritto da: LuciferSam_86> Qualcuno glielo va a dire a Sarkò ed agli> americani che i Francesi sono passati tutti a> reti cifrate/darknet/VPN dopo> HADOPI?> > Comunque quoto quello che ha detto Guybrush.> > PS: for teh lulz, era il mio nick che usavo prima> di recuperare la password (oppure quando non ho> voglia di> loggarmi)> > EDIT 1: Aggiungo un osservazione, magari anche a> coloro a favore di questi> leggi.> 1) Perchè non vedono di rivedere il copyright? 70> anni, sono veramente necessari? Perchè non> metterne al massimo 10, e dopo l'opera può essere> distribuita senza limitazioni per non a scopo di> lucro?> --------------------------------------------------> Modificato dall' autore il 16 marzo 2012 11.13> --------------------------------------------------Secondo me copyright e diritto d'autore dovrebbero andare a braccietto.L'autore prende i diritti per un'opera e concede in licenza i diritti di copyright a qualcuno. Quando l'autore muore l'opera diventa di dominio pubblico.Non vedo il perchè figli e nipoti dell'autore debbano campare del lavoro del padre/nonno a vita.

Re: ehm...
Mah, non sono tanto d'accordo sul "faccio un'opera e vivo di rendita per il resto della mia vita". Secondo me dopo 15 anni, copyright e diritto d'autore dovrebbero lasciar posto al "l'opera diventa libera a patto che tu utente non faccia su soldi"

Re: ehm...
- Scritto da: Zek> - Scritto da: LuciferSam_86> > Qualcuno glielo va a dire a Sarkò ed agli> > americani che i Francesi sono passati tutti a> > reti cifrate/darknet/VPN dopo> > HADOPI?> > > > Comunque quoto quello che ha detto Guybrush.> > > > PS: for teh lulz, era il mio nick che usavo> prima> > di recuperare la password (oppure quando non> ho> > voglia di> > loggarmi)> > > > EDIT 1: Aggiungo un osservazione, magari> anche> a> > coloro a favore di questi> > leggi.> > 1) Perchè non vedono di rivedere il> copyright?> 70> > anni, sono veramente necessari? Perchè non> > metterne al massimo 10, e dopo l'opera può> essere> > distribuita senza limitazioni per non a> scopo> di> > lucro?> >> --------------------------------------------------> > Modificato dall' autore il 16 marzo 2012> 11.13> >> --------------------------------------------------> > Secondo me copyright e diritto d'autore> dovrebbero andare a> braccietto.> L'autore prende i diritti per un'opera e concede> in licenza i diritti di copyright a qualcuno.> Quando l'autore muore l'opera diventa di dominio> pubblico.> Non vedo il perchè figli e nipoti dell'autore> debbano campare del lavoro del padre/nonno a> vita.Per lo stesso motivo per cui tu campi una vita con le rendite ereditate da tuo padre e i tuoi figli faranno altrettanto...

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Re: ehm...
> Per lo stesso motivo per cui tu campi una vita> con le rendite ereditate da tuo padre e i tuoi> figli faranno> altrettanto...Lo sai che le rendite non si ereditano?O per caso tu incassi la pensione di tuo nonno?

Interessante
vedremo quanto ci metteranno a inserire algoritmidi crittaggio a livello di protocollo per loscambio dei pacchetti sia nelle reti p2p sia neldirect-download e sopratutto se, come credo, basteràcrittare solo il link e non il flusso di dati checontiene il file vero e propio.Siamo davvero alle soglie di una darknet dei contenutie siamo sicuri che la cura imposta ai vari ISP nonsia peggio della malattia che si cerca di curare.

Re: Interessante
- Scritto da: eleirbag> vedremo quanto ci metteranno a inserire algoritmi> di crittaggio a livello di protocollo per lo> scambio dei pacchetti sia nelle reti p2p sia nel> direct-download e sopratutto se, come credo,> basterà> crittare solo il link e non il flusso di dati che> contiene il file vero e propio.> > Siamo davvero alle soglie di una darknet dei> contenuti> e siamo sicuri che la cura imposta ai vari ISP non> sia peggio della malattia che si cerca di curare.Mah... probabilmente non è nemmeno necessario usare connessioni criptate con VPN. Se (e credo sia così) dovessero utilizzare dei software di riconoscimento basati su patterns, per le reti P2P potrebbe essere sufficiente attivare dei sistemi che in modo del tutto casuale mascherino i trasferimenti, rendendoli ognuno diverso dagli altri.Quello che voglio dire è che forse non è necessario adoperare connessioni "sicure", che sono identificabili come tali e bloccabili, basta rendere inutili i software di riconoscimento camuffando i dati con chiavi negoziate fra client e client.

Lavatrice
In realtà fa tutto parte dello stesso intento...rendere il computer ne più nè meno che una lavatrice, un frigo, al massimo una televisione. Quattro tasti e una manopola, ci fai quello che diciamo noi. Sistema operativo, applicazioni, tipo e modalità delle comunicazioni, tutto deve essere autorizzato dall'alto e, ovviamente, controllato ed utilizzato a fini commerciali e possibilmente repressivi. Pure la TV è utilizzate per dementificare (orrendo) gli utilizzatori. In più il computer permette di raccogliere a costo zero una quantità impressionante di informazioni. Sta diventando l'ennesimo potentissimo strumento al servizio del produci-CONSUMA-crepa. Ci resta Freenet e poco altro...

Re: Lavatrice
Non la vedrei cosi drasticamente, anche perchè dubito che sta cosa passi sotto silenzio.

Re: Lavatrice
- Scritto da: noid> In realtà fa tutto parte dello stesso> intento...rendere il computer ne più nè meno che> una lavatrice, un frigo, al massimo una> televisione.Quindi, un apparecchio pensato apposta per la pirateria (visto che i televisori si stanno muovendo in quella direzione: hai mai notato quanti tv hanno la porta usb per leggere i divx?)

Re: Lavatrice
- Scritto da: uno qualsiasi> - Scritto da: noid> > In realtà fa tutto parte dello stesso> > intento...rendere il computer ne più nè meno> che> > una lavatrice, un frigo, al massimo una> > televisione.> > Quindi, un apparecchio pensato apposta per la> pirateria (visto che i televisori si stanno> muovendo in quella direzione: hai mai notato> quanti tv hanno la porta usb per leggere i> divx?)Anche per leggere file legali... Quando serve si vuol far credere che un file hostin sia per le foto dei compleanni e al contrario si vuol far credere che una porta usb sia per i dvx...

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Re: Lavatrice
I filmati fatti con la videocamera (ne ho provate due, più quella del cellulare) sono in un formato diverso dal divx, e non li legge.Se i produttori avessero avuto in mente gli usi non pirata, non credi che avrebbero fatto il contrario?

pare tutto perfetto
Comcast, Verizon, Time Warner Cable sono si telco, MA SONO anche TV broadcaster (specie comcast). Quindi il conflitto di interessi e' palese.Sherman, anche se agisce come un politico eletto, e' solo il boss di un gruppo di feroci lobbisti (la RIAA).Direi che e' tutto perfetto.

Re: pare tutto perfetto
Bisogna vedere, se si può cambiare ISP.Da qual che so, negli usa, non è possibile cambiare ISP in certe aree del paese, sbaglio ?

tecnofascismo
e dai che siamo già in pieno fascismo capitalistico-tecnocratico globalizzato!

Re: tecnofascismo
Ci scherzi, ma la gente che dice cosi esiste veramente :(

Re: tecnofascismo
XXXXX c' entra la pedofilia?Ignorante...

Re: tecnofascismo
- Scritto da: stu> XXXXX c' entra la pedofilia?Ignorante...La luna punta...e tu guardi il dito.

Re: tecnofascismo
Che XXXXX stai dicendo? O sei stupido, o sei un videotecaro di XXXXX morto di fame, anzi probabilmente entrambi, in poche parole un rifiuto umano, i videotecari si devono estinguere

Re: tecnofascismo
ma di cosa parli? spiegati a parole comprensibili se ci riesci

Re: tecnofascismo
il messaggio era per sgabbio

Re: tecnofascismo
Con chi XXXXX staresti parlando? perchè io ce l'ho con quel videotecaro fallito che si chiama iome

Re: tecnofascismo
- Scritto da: bb cc> e dai che siamo già in pieno fascismo> capitalistico-tecnocratico> globalizzato!Entreranno casa per casa, uccidendo donne e bambini, per poi dare fuoco a tutto? Sembra ormai lo sport nazionale americano. In cosa si distinguono dal regime siriano?

Re: tecnofascismo
- Scritto da: Fidel> - Scritto da: bb cc> > e dai che siamo già in pieno fascismo> > capitalistico-tecnocratico> > globalizzato!> > Entreranno casa per casa, uccidendo donne e> bambini, per poi dare fuoco a tutto?> > Sembra ormai lo sport nazionale americano. In> cosa si distinguono dal regime> siriano?che sono piu grossi e hanno harmi migliori

pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
battisti è morto da anni è stato prodotto dalla RCA ora defunta e devo pagare la sony un colosso giapponese per ascoltare le sue canzoni

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: Bario 23> battisti è morto da anni è stato prodotto dalla> RCA ora defunta e devo pagare la sony un colosso> giapponese per ascoltare le sue> canzoniPiù che altro mi dà fastidio dover pagare la SIAE per suonare le MIE canzoni

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
e fattele da solo allora le canzoni invece che sfruttare il lavoro degli altri...se ti senti tanto fighi diventa compositore...ma che ragionamenti tocca leggere....tanto ancora un paio d'anni e la pacchia e' finita a tutti

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: alvaro> e fattele da solo allora le canzoni invece che> sfruttare il lavoro degli altri...Non venderle, allora.E comunque, nel caso tu non lo sapessi, si paga la siae anche per suonare le canzoni fatte da te.> se ti senti> tanto fighi diventa compositore...ma che> ragionamenti tocca leggere....tanto ancora un> paio d'anni e la pacchia e' finita a> tuttiAncora un paio di anni e nessuno venderà più nulla.Già adesso, se cerchi di vendere un cd ti ridono in faccia.

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Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: alvaro> e fattele da solo allora le canzoni invece che> sfruttare il lavoro degli altri...se ti senti> tanto fighi diventa compositore...E cosa credi che faccia se scrivo "_mie_ canzoni"?

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: Bario 23> battisti è morto da anni è stato prodotto dalla> RCA ora defunta e devo pagare la sony un colosso> giapponese per ascoltare le sue> canzoniEsistono gli eredi, per te è giusto che non ricevano i frutti del lavoro del padre? Se erediti un qualsiasi altro bene tu lo metti al servizio della comunità? Quello che è mio è mio e quello che è tuo è mio... uno slogan che risquote molte sucXXXXX.

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
ah ah ah prevedo già le class action degli eredi di Vivaldi,Giuseppe Verdi, Niccolò Paganini, Gioachino Rossini, Vincenzo Bellini, Gaetano Donizetti ecc ecc ah ah ahbella questa del frutto del lavoro degli antenati, potresti portarla al parlamento come proposta di legge ah ah ahmo vado a vedere nella mia genealogia se posso "grattare" qualche frutto.

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: Cotton> ah ah ah prevedo già le class action degli eredi> di Vivaldi,Giuseppe Verdi, Niccolò Paganini,> Gioachino Rossini, Vincenzo Bellini, Gaetano> Donizetti ecc ecc> > > ah ah ah> > bella questa del frutto del lavoro degli> antenati, potresti portarla al parlamento come> proposta di legge ah ah> ah> > mo vado a vedere nella mia genealogia se posso> "grattare" qualche> frutto.Forse quelli che hai citato sono morti da più di 70 anni... :-)

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: Allibito> Esistono gli eredi, per te è giusto che non> ricevano i frutti del lavoro del padre? Se> erediti un qualsiasi altro bene tu lo metti al> servizio della comunità? Quello che è mio è mio e> quello che è tuo è mio... uno slogan che risquote> molte sucXXXXX.Non sapevo che Battisti avesse dei figli chiamati Sony, effettivamente "Sony Battisti" non suona male...Comunque, non sono beni materiali, e la loro tutela è determinata dalla concessione che la società pubblica fa agli autori. Concessione che è stata protratta all'infinito da persone che non hanno nulla a che fare con gli autori e per cui va negato ogni diritto.

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: Pirata Sanguinari o> - Scritto da: Allibito> > Esistono gli eredi, per te è giusto che non> > ricevano i frutti del lavoro del padre? Se> > erediti un qualsiasi altro bene tu lo metti> al> > servizio della comunità? Quello che è mio è> mio> e> > quello che è tuo è mio... uno slogan che> risquote> > molte sucXXXXX.> > Non sapevo che Battisti avesse dei figli chiamati> Sony, effettivamente "Sony Battisti" non suona> male...> Comunque, non sono beni materiali, e la loro> tutela è determinata dalla concessione che la> società pubblica fa agli autori.> > Concessione che è stata protratta all'infinito da> persone che non hanno nulla a che fare con gli> autori e per cui va negato ogni> diritto.Io non so di chi siano i diritti delle canzoni di Battisti, presumo siano della famiglia ma se questi li hanno ceduti è giusto che chi li ha comprati per lo sfruttamento...li sfrutti...Non bisogna confondere i detentori dei diritti con le case distributrici o discografiche e tu lo hai appena fatto.

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Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: unaDuraLezione> - Scritto da: Allibito> > > Esistono gli eredi> > Hanno già ereditato il suo patrimonio, come tutti> gli eredi di qualsiasi altra> persona.evidentemente sto tizio è l'unico a non saperlo, ma sta idea dei frutti dei padri mi ha fatto talmente ridere che dovrebbe svilupparla ancora un pochino, voglio vedere dove a arriva .... ah ah

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: unaDuraLezione> - Scritto da: Allibito> > > Esistono gli eredi> > Hanno già ereditato il suo patrimonio, come tutti> gli eredi di qualsiasi altra> persona.> > Quello che stai cercando di dire è semplicemente> illogico ed con la rivoluzione digitale anche la> *MASSA* se n'è resa> conto.> Ricordati che prima o poi tutti i nodi vengono al> pettingPerchè vuoi decidere tu cosa sia ereditabile e cosa non lo sia? Un bene che da reddito è ereditabile come ogni altro bene. Sono curioso di sapere se la penseresti nello stesso modo se tu fossi il figlio di Modugno... scommetti che indovino??

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: unaDuraLezione> - Scritto da: Allibito> > > Esistono gli eredi> > Hanno già ereditato il suo patrimonio, come tutti> gli eredi di qualsiasi altra> persona.Basta fare il paragone (visto che entrambe rendite su lavori passati sono) tra diritti d'autore e pensioni.Perche' i figli di Michael jackson possono lucrare sulle canzoni dei Beatles (poiche' il padre aveva comperato i diritti...) e io non posso avere la pensione di mio nonno morto (ma anzi, devo aver paura che il fisco tra 10 anni trovi qualche errore e mi venga a chiedere una barca di soldi)??

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: Allibito> - Scritto da: Bario 23> > battisti è morto da anni è stato prodotto dalla> > RCA ora defunta e devo pagare la sony un colosso> > giapponese per ascoltare le sue> > canzoni> Esistono gli eredi, per te è giusto che non> ricevano i frutti del lavoro del padre? No, perchè il padre non sta lavorando. E non era nemmeno giusto che incassasse lui.Oltre tutto, questo invalida anche la patetica scusa "servirà a finanziare produzioni nuove". Ma quali, se è morto? Sono solo truffatori, ed è GIUSTO che perdano soldi.Se> erediti un qualsiasi altro bene tu lo metti al> servizio della comunità? Il lavoro non si eredita. Le capacità nemmeno.

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
Accidenti ... spero che progettista ed operai che hanno costruito la mia casa, muoiano senza figli, altrimenti finirò in mezzo ad una strada !

Re: pagare la sony per ascoltare battisti
- Scritto da: Bario 23> battisti è morto da anni è stato prodotto dalla> RCA ora defunta e devo pagare la sony un colosso> giapponese per ascoltare le sue> canzonilucio battisti e' morto il 9 settembre 1998. Fanno circa 14 anni, ancora sei anni e poi scarico a man bassa, 20 anni sono abbastanza. E in XXXX a Sony.

U.S.A vs INTERNET
Bhe da quello che ho letto e capito,in USA stanno molto peggio di noi al momento.Come vedete gli americani sono in guerra anche contro internet contro la libertà,insomma c'è di chè leccarsi i baffi.Ricordate che e l'utente finale che quando apre il portafoglio coi soldini che da aria ed ossigeno alle Majors e non il contrario.Siamo noi che promuoviamo col nostro assenso a nuovi imperi economici ecc ,siamo noi che facciamo campare le Majors andando hai concerti dei loro pupilli ecc,sè c'è qualcuno che può spegnere internet e non solo siamo noi utenti e non le Majors.Ci sono profitti colossali in gioco ed infatti le Mjors stanno mostrando i muscoli nuovamente ma mi chiedo ma il mondo può stare dietro ad i piagnistei delle Majors? Al peggio non c'è mai fine.

Re: U.S.A vs INTERNET
- Scritto da: darksenderl> Bhe da quello che ho letto e capito,in USA stanno> molto peggio di noi al momento.Come vedete gli> americani sono in guerra anche contro internet> contro la libertà,insomma c'è di chè leccarsi i> baffi.Ricordate che e l'utente finale che quando> apre il portafoglio coi soldini che da aria ed> ossigeno alle Majors e non il contrario.vallo a dire a quelli asserviti alle Multinazionatali, buttati a terra tipo pelle d'orso davanti al caminetto, quelli che credono che siano QUELLI a fare un favore a NOI e non il contrario. Si, parlo dei vari ruppoli, i difensori delle major, i discovideotechini, etc.

Re: U.S.A vs INTERNET
- Scritto da: darksenderl> Bhe da quello che ho letto e capito,in USA stanno> molto peggio di noi al momento.Come vedete gli> americani sono in guerra anche contro internet> contro la libertà,insomma c'è di chè leccarsi i> baffi.Ricordate che e l'utente finale che quando> apre il portafoglio coi soldini che da aria ed> ossigeno alle Majors e non il contrario.Siamo noi> che promuoviamo col nostro assenso a nuovi imperi> economici ecc ,siamo noi che facciamo campare le> Majors andando hai concerti dei loro pupilli> ecc,sè c'è qualcuno che può spegnere internet e> non solo siamo noi utenti e non le Majors.Ci sono> profitti colossali in gioco ed infatti le Mjors> stanno mostrando i muscoli nuovamente ma mi> chiedo ma il mondo può stare dietro ad i> piagnistei delle Majors? Al peggio non c'è mai> fine.Nessuno fa campare nessuno, le major senza clienti non avrebbero motivo di esistere, i clienti senza chi produce non avrebbero nulla da sentire/vedere... E' il mercato. Gli autori senza produttori avrebbero i cassetti pieni di spartiti o bozze di libri, nessuno saprebbe mai nulla della loro esistenza. Il sistema è perfetto, l'unico neo sono le risorse perse e quelle investite contro chi vuole usufruire del lavoro altrui senza pagare dicendo che sia ingiusto pretendere un compenso... però lo stipendio a fine mese lo vogliono eccome.

Re: U.S.A vs INTERNET
- Scritto da: Allibito> Nessuno fa campare nessuno, le major senza> clienti non avrebbero motivo di esistere, i> clienti senza chi produce non avrebbero nulla da> sentire/vedere... E' il mercato. Esiste una quantita' enorme di contenuti gia' prodotti.Se non ne saranno prodotti di nuovi, ci faremo bastare quelli che gia' ci sono.> Gli autori senza> produttori avrebbero i cassetti pieni di spartiti> o bozze di libri, nessuno saprebbe mai nulla> della loro esistenza. Vanno a suonare in piazza.Tutti i grandi hanno cominciato cosi'.> Il sistema è perfetto,dal punto di vista del parassita.> l'unico neo sono le risorse perse e quelle> investite contro chi vuole usufruire del lavoro> altrui senza pagare dicendo che sia ingiusto> pretendere un compenso... però lo stipendio a> fine mese lo vogliono> eccome.Lo stipendio va pagato solo a chi lavora.E tu non lavori, quindi e' giusto che tu faccia la fame e ti estingua.

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- Scritto da: panda rossa> - Scritto da: Allibito> > > Nessuno fa campare nessuno, le major senza> > clienti non avrebbero motivo di esistere, i> > clienti senza chi produce non avrebbero> nulla> da> > sentire/vedere... E' il mercato. > > Esiste una quantita' enorme di contenuti gia'> prodotti.> Se non ne saranno prodotti di nuovi, ci faremo> bastare quelli che gia' ci> sono.> Quelli che ci sono hanno un autore e tu devi rispettare lui e le leggi.> > Gli autori senza> > produttori avrebbero i cassetti pieni di> spartiti> > o bozze di libri, nessuno saprebbe mai nulla> > della loro esistenza. > > Vanno a suonare in piazza.> Tutti i grandi hanno cominciato cosi'.Ma poi hanno fatto quella cosa cosa circolare dove ci sono incise le canzoni (cd ma tu sei rimasto ai menestrelli di strada) per venderle e finalmente avere profitto dal lavoro.> > > Il sistema è perfetto,> > dal punto di vista del parassita.Quindi dal tuo, dal momento che sei l'unico della filiera a meritarsi tale appellativo, l'unico che non sono non produce e non collabora, ma nemmeno compra, il che andrebbe bene se non avessi la pretesa di volere le cose che altri pagano. Questo è un parassita.> > > l'unico neo sono le risorse perse e quelle> > investite contro chi vuole usufruire del> lavoro> > altrui senza pagare dicendo che sia ingiusto> > pretendere un compenso... però lo stipendio a> > fine mese lo vogliono> > eccome.> > Lo stipendio va pagato solo a chi lavora.> E tu non lavori, quindi e' giusto che tu faccia> la fame e ti> estingua.Io lavoro, non so tu, non faccio la fame, anzi, credo che 1/10 del mio reddito farebbe di te un uomo realizzato. Non parlare senza sapere, rischi figuracce.

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> Nessuno fa campare nessuno, le major senza> clienti non avrebbero motivo di esistereInfatti non hanno motivo di esistere. E noi vogliamo eliminarle. Per sempre.>, i> clienti senza chi produce non avrebbero nulla da> sentire/vedere...Falso, e lo sai bene.> E' il mercato. Gli autori senza> produttori avrebbero i cassetti pieni di spartiti> o bozze di libri, nessuno saprebbe mai nulla> della loro esistenza.Se hanno trovato il tempo di realizzare gli spartiti, hanno il tempo di suonarli. O di pubblicarli e lasciare che li suoni qualcun altro. Perchè se hai dedicato il tuo tempo a scrivere gratis lo spartito, poi non lo lasci in un cassetto, ma lo diffondi.> Il sistema è perfetto,No. Il sistema è un abominio. Solo uno stupido, o un individuo in malafede, può dire che è perfetto. Tu a quale delle due categorie appartieni?> l'unico neo sono le risorse perse e quelle> investite contro chi vuole usufruire del lavoro> altrui senza pagare dicendo che sia ingiusto> pretendere un compenso...L'unico neo... certo.L'operazione è riuscita perfettamente, l'unico neo è che il paziente è morto.> però lo stipendio a> fine mese lo vogliono> eccome.Se non mi pagano lo stipendio a fine mese io smetto di lavorare.E se nessuno sente la mancanza del mio lavoro vorrebbe dire che il mio lavoro era inutile, e il mio stipendio erano soldi buttati.Ma ciò non accade, visto che continuano a pagarmi.

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Va bene così ... non è mai stato aggiornato con frequenza, e ogni nuova release porta con sè una bella ventata di novità !

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- Scritto da: Joe Tornado> Va bene così ... non è mai stato aggiornato con> frequenza, e ogni nuova release porta con sè una> bella ventata di novità> !bhe è il minimo visto i tempi lenti.

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era ora e facessero fuori anche i siti tipo mediafire e soci. basta con sti piratelli nerds.

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Link illeggibile.Comunque, i siti tipo mediafire offrono un servizio utile.I detentori dei copyright cosa offrono?

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- Scritto da: uno qualsiasi> Link illeggibile.incredibile.Questi parlano di tecnologia, vengono qui a fare i saccenti e manco sanno infilare un link in un forum.AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Con un po' di fortuna, tra qualche anno si saranno estinti.

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ould also do your (wonderful) thing around the blogosphere for a while (just not always here). Keep the juices flowing, continue to help people, foster even greater community growth, and not be an (ugh) static single target., http://lightfootopi.livejournal.com JAMIE LYNN SPEARS SEX TAPE, wmt, http://ruffordpiqib.livejournal.com PARIS HILTON FAKES, 65795, http://guntarzazaf.livejournal.com KAREENA KAPOOR TOPLESS, %-]]], http://cassieloreh.livejournal.com EMILY PROCTER SEX TAPE, 104, http://grahamyhyk.livejournal.com SELENA GOMEZ NUDE PICTURES, 737, http://pattieuzi.livejournal.com KATE BOSWORTH BUSH, 9407, http://farahohyk.livejournal.com DANIELLE FISHEL NACKT, :[, http://swainebado.livejournal.com EMILY OSMENT PUSSY, ikizvl, http://mairxykit.livejournal.com TAYLOR MOMSEN SEX SCENE, 314, http://janyujoz.livejournal.com KIM KARDASHIAN NAKED PHOTOS, %], http://ellenpev.livejournal.com VIDA GUERRA PORN, uomyhi, http://giacamotodiq.livejournal.com JENNIFER LOPEZ BOOBS, %-((, http://zarasoluh.livejournal.com AMANDA HOLDEN PORN, 66877,

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Take me for example. I could support Bachman, Cain, Palin, or Santorum. in no particular order. Others would choose fewer plus Paul., http://garlingekite.livejournal.com BRIDGETTE WILSON TITS, aofvf, http://orranfeve.livejournal.com KELLY KELLY BOOBS, 8-]]], http://heronjodyv.livejournal.com ADRIANNE CURRY NACKT, 8-[, http://gracielaopit.livejournal.com MARISA TOMEI NAKED, 7250, http://tatumokyh.livejournal.com LAURA LINNEY NUDE, 601910, http://acieonafi.livejournal.com EMILY BLUNT SEX TAPE, mclmqo, http://jeffyyfy.livejournal.com EMMANUELLE CHRIQUI NAKED, htuh, http://marijanekud.livejournal.com CHELSEA HANDLER NUDE, xekzvx, http://grimbaldfeq.livejournal.com BARBARA EDEN NUDE, zgk, http://leoniuqam.livejournal.com DIORA BAIRD NUDE, =-(((, http://nortonymino.livejournal.com DANICA MCKELLAR NUDE, 5442, http://fayetteviz.livejournal.com MEGAN FOX NACKT, jzdguy,

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Kathy, the content you have graciously shared with us every once in a while is both inspiring and entertaining. And a blog is the perfect medium for this. A lot of the content is about your style and creative personality. Thus, I would rule out the community-based ideas. I would probably only read your stuff anyway., http://cobenmopy.livejournal.com IMOGEN THOMAS NUDE, iurhy, http://nikolettat.livejournal.com EMILY DESCHANEL NUDE PICTURES, bhev, http://rabkinuke.livejournal.com DAVINA MCCALL BOOBS, fqcwc, http://haymeszyq.livejournal.com URSULA ANDRESS NUDE, 7748, http://mariandiyf.livejournal.com JULIA LOUIS-DREYFUS NUDE, 57713, http://templiafady.livejournal.com JULIA ROBERTS NUDE, 68337, http://salmonosa.livejournal.com CHER NUDE, :-DDD, http://fayetteviz.livejournal.com MEGAN FOX NACKT, wyz, http://neukamvyqo.livejournal.com EMILY OSMENT TITS, exjsh, http://ardehsyco.livejournal.com MEAGAN GOOD NUDE, yqvsv, http://saundereru.livejournal.com MARILYN MONROE NAKED, =-[[,

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O.K. I give up. What is your beef with Gutfeld? I think he is hilarious! He is not a serious contributor, but is there for laughs. I like him., http://yeseniatyt.livejournal.com COTE DE PABLO PLAYBOY, rutvx, http://herzelnurid.livejournal.com SALMA HAYEK PUSSY, wymziz, http://sheenaemor.livejournal.com SCARLETT JOHANSSON BUTT, 8-DD, http://stonwinveq.livejournal.com MELINA KANAKAREDES NUDE PHOTOS, quyob, http://hughettyqosa.livejournal.com CHRISTINA AGUILERA FAKES, 649834, http://delilanyhow.livejournal.com MEAGAN GOOD ASS, :OOO, http://nicksemyty.livejournal.com AMANDA RIGHETTI NIPPLE SLIP, 136220, http://cobenmopy.livejournal.com IMOGEN THOMAS NACKT, 85443, http://tracydubap.livejournal.com EVANGELINE LILLY NUDE PHOTOS, 1378, http://jeffyyfy.livejournal.com EMMANUELLE CHRIQUI NACKT, szi, http://laresaapyfa.livejournal.com EMMY ROSSUM BOOBS, nqy, http://llywellynd.livejournal.com AMBER HEARD FAKES, 519, http://krasnoffxuqu.livejournal.com MIRANDA COSGROVE SEX VIDEO, 5196, http://manlyunoki.livejournal.com ANNA POPPLEWELL BUTT, =-],

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I like the idea of a private blog if getting the RSS and reading posts was as simple as public. If there are too many hoops just to get notice of and read a single post it will get frustrating., http://vladamirciza.livejournal.com KATE MARA SEX TAPE, 970902, http://crescintylij.livejournal.com ROSE MCGOWAN NUDE PICTURES, %-D, http://lucaniakocaz.livejournal.com DANIELLE PANABAKER TOPLESS, xzznct, http://elsafuzy.livejournal.com KAT DENNINGS SEX TAPE, ezjwc, http://aileelyz.livejournal.com CONSTANCE MARIE SEX TAPE, lwiqu, http://blayzegyqo.livejournal.com ZOE SALDANA ASS, 62567, http://skylaregydo.livejournal.com KELLY REILLY PLAYBOY, =-OO, http://romolagyj.livejournal.com NOUREEN DEWULF ASS, 07877, http://krebsojeqy.livejournal.com KELLY BROOK FAKES, 072298, http://andreyhys.livejournal.com DENISE MILANI TITS, lhvjd, http://kimballwomo.livejournal.com AUDRINA PATRIDGE NAKED PICS, :-((,

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Honestly said, I don't think you can do anything to fend off the attacks. I don't think you got attacked because of something you did, but because lots of people admire you and your work. That's apparently enough for some people to hate you. Only by unpassionating your readers, can you hope to actually stop the haters. I hope you will reject that option., http://www.flickr.com/people/83608793@N04/ KALEY CUOCO NAKED, zrmcw, http://www.flickr.com/people/83600328@N03/ KIM KARDASHIAN NAKED, 868114, http://www.flickr.com/people/83680024@N07/ CLAIRE DANES NUDE, qvazhj, http://www.flickr.com/people/83714786@N05/ SUSAN WARD NUDE, 2659, http://www.flickr.com/people/83743134@N07/ AVRIL LAVIGNE SEX TAPE, eonjz, http://www.flickr.com/people/83626240@N03/ KRISTIN DAVIS SEX TAPE, %-))), http://www.flickr.com/people/83780993@N08/ ANNA FRIEL NUDE, >:O, http://www.flickr.com/people/83716762@N02/ GONG LI NUDE, 54423, http://www.flickr.com/people/83623542@N07/ LEAH REMINI NAKED, 189362, http://www.flickr.com/people/83618582@N05/ LINDSAY LOHAN NAKED, 67525,

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Maybe the private blog is the way to go, though I suspect you'd need some time to get revved up for that. The pod/video angle sounds great, but that raises a lot of other questions. And it loses the immediacy that you enjoyed so long, which is one of the most unfortunate losses in all this., http://kukimkardashiannude8r.tumblr.com KIM KARDASHIAN DESNUDA, 1137, http://7okathrynmorrisnude7i.tumblr.com KATHRYN MORRIS NACKT, 8-O, http://xyangiedickinsonnudefx.tumblr.com ANGIE DICKINSON PORN, gpis, http://4eamberheardnudeo9.tumblr.com AMBER HEARD TOPLESS, hfh, http://9ndaniellepanabakernudejz.tumblr.com DANIELLE PANABAKER PUSSY, ldjk, http://6ftarareidnaked4d.tumblr.com TARA REID FAKES, :P, http://bumollysimsnude0a.tumblr.com MOLLY SIMS IN A BIKINI, steti, http://gsmarilynmonroenakedy9.tumblr.com MARILYN MONROE BUTT, zex, http://aycarrieunderwoodnudet9.tumblr.com CARRIE UNDERWOOD DESNUDA, 65240, http://fvdavinamccallnudeei.tumblr.com DAVINA MCCALL PORN, 555747, http://p5meagangoodnude5i.tumblr.com MEAGAN GOOD DESNUDA, 029, http://y6vanessahudgensnudecn.tumblr.com VANESSA HUDGENS NACKT, 959, http://d5judygreernude7a.tumblr.com JUDY GREER NIPPLE SLIP, 71061, http://odkeiraknightleynakede1.tumblr.com KEIRA KNIGHTLEY DESNUDA, 155,

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It makes sense about not continuing with "business as usual"  I couldn't do it, either. But I can't see ghost writing as being satisfiying for someone with as strong a voice as yours. Being an evangelist for the likes of Apple or Adobe might be cool, but would that let you continue with the stream of consciousness riffs that have obviously been satifsying for you  and been so energizing for us, your readers? Don't know., http://1ykendrawilkinsonnude2j.tumblr.com KENDRA WILKINSON PORN, >:]]], http://6hmirandacosgrovenakedja.tumblr.com MIRANDA COSGROVE NAKED, vpdjwz, http://c0stanakaticnudehj.tumblr.com STANA KATIC NUDE, %OO, http://dfscarlettjohanssonpornl7.tumblr.com SCARLETT JOHANSSON NAKED PICTURES, >:-DD, http://0uleahremininudewt.tumblr.com LEAH REMINI PLAYBOY, 932, http://82blakelivelydesnuda4s.tumblr.com BLAKE LIVELY DESNUDA, 8-[, http://nrselenagomezpornuw.tumblr.com SELENA GOMEZ PORN, yjku, http://obkatherineheiglnudel5.tumblr.com KATHERINE HEIGL NUDE, brz, http://8wrihannadesnudag6.tumblr.com RIHANNA DESNUDA, 4529, http://cdkimkardashianboobs4k.tumblr.com KIM KARDASHIAN SEX TAPE, 508, http://jzkimkardashiantoplessny.tumblr.com KIM KARDASHIAN HOT PICS, 450, http://osdemimoorenude9y.tumblr.com DEMI MOORE NUDE, 41504,

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Take me for example. I could support Bachman, Cain, Palin, or Santorum. in no particular order. Others would choose fewer plus Paul., http://4zjewelstaitenude75.tumblr.com JEWEL STAITE PLAYBOY, zphv, http://oqsuzannesomersnude1y.tumblr.com SUZANNE SOMERS SEX VIDEO, %]]], http://8nkarengillanhotmv.tumblr.com KAREN GILLAN HOT PICS, :-[[, http://3gparishiltonnudejh.tumblr.com PARIS HILTON TOPLESS, %OOO, http://y7emmawatsonnipple9u.tumblr.com EMMA WATSON FAKES, 83643, http://ynjennajamesonnude27.tumblr.com JENNA JAMESON FAKES, aoz, http://igmaggiegyllenhaalnudeod.tumblr.com MAGGIE GYLLENHAAL FAKES, :D, http://b1dakotafanningnuderg.tumblr.com DAKOTA FANNING NUDE PICS, 8539, http://dhchristinaaguileranaked8a.tumblr.com CHRISTINA AGUILERA TITS, 0941, http://lvtilatequilanudev5.tumblr.com TILA TEQUILA PUSSY, xuqdnc, http://u0olgakurylenkonudee7.tumblr.com OLGA KURYLENKO DESNUDA, ussxlt,

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It'd be kinda like the group blog idea, but with more of a "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" vibe. And who didn't love playing that? :), http://t3vanessahudgensnacktnt.tumblr.com VANESSA HUDGENS BUSH, emfl, http://8xpamelaandersonhotvw.tumblr.com PAMELA ANDERSON BOOBS, 473703, http://djlaurenhollynudequ.tumblr.com LAUREN HOLLY NUDE, 083431, http://w0nickiminajsextapele.tumblr.com NICKI MINAJ NUDE PICS, bxwt, http://jnsharonstonenude7h.tumblr.com SHARON STONE HOT PICS, :-], http://c6rihannabikinijx.tumblr.com RIHANNA SEX TAPE, ffitd, http://uoscarlettjohanssonnakedpicsp0.tumblr.com SCARLETT JOHANSSON SEX SCENE, =P, http://imevetorreshot1c.tumblr.com EVE TORRES NUDE PICS, 838845, http://injanetjacksonhot1h.tumblr.com JANET JACKSON HOT, 784240, http://x1giselebundchennakedwr.tumblr.com GISELE BUNDCHEN NAKED, :-)), http://51christinaapplegatenudei1.tumblr.com CHRISTINA APPLEGATE SEX TAPE, 8-((, http://8ojennafischerhotsz.tumblr.com JENNA FISCHER HOT, >:)), http://v4naomiwattsnudekg.tumblr.com NAOMI WATTS NUDE, ttrsmt,

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Just look at the difference just 20-30 rock solid Tea Party conservatives have made in the House already. They've turned "1/3 of the government" on its head and started a war between the establishment party and the Tea Party., http://77lisakudrownudey0.tumblr.com LISA KUDROW TOPLESS, 249, http://4tkristindavissextapepc.tumblr.com KRISTIN DAVIS NAKED PHOTOS, %-DD, http://3wjennifertaylornakedys.tumblr.com JENNIFER TAYLOR NUDE PHOTOS, 439, http://j2torriewilsonplayboyrl.tumblr.com TORRIE WILSON NAKED PICS, dic, http://ywamandabynesnaked62.tumblr.com AMANDA BYNES DESNUDA, 713829, http://p2stephanieseymournude9t.tumblr.com STEPHANIE SEYMOUR TITS, 32120, http://8xpamelaandersonhotvw.tumblr.com PAMELA ANDERSON SEX TAPE, >:))), http://cfsunnyleonenudemt.tumblr.com SUNNY LEONE BUSH, ees, http://d8graceparknakedvu.tumblr.com GRACE PARK SEX TAPE, %-))), http://hrscarlettjohanssonsextapeau.tumblr.com SCARLETT JOHANSSON TITS, 84845,

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Kathy, the content you have graciously shared with us every once in a while is both inspiring and entertaining. And a blog is the perfect medium for this. A lot of the content is about your style and creative personality. Thus, I would rule out the community-based ideas. I would probably only read your stuff anyway., http://duckpreqgaci1976.bravejournal.com ZOOEY DESCHANEL NIPPLE SLIP, lkxsxt, http://rareskeypay1976.bravejournal.com PRIYANKA CHOPRA FAKES, pmkkw, http://lersepeme1973.bravejournal.com ANNA POPPLEWELL NUDE, =-), http://payrayvibot1971.bravejournal.com MEGAN FOX FAKES, 500, http://buitersfulrest1970.bravejournal.com KENDRA WILKINSON NAKED PICS, dsvgj, http://diamagrete1975.bravejournal.com JULIANNE MOORE NUDE PICS, =-PPP, http://pufcofastcy1974.bravejournal.com LINDSAY LOHAN TITS, 37954, http://bounchievari1987.bravejournal.com KATE MARA SEX SCENE, 79359, http://larlagitme1975.bravejournal.com KATY MIXON NACKT, trctcn, http://mochehichess1972.bravejournal.com VANESSA WILLIAMS NUDE, tgyps,

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Use your passion and geek expertise to liberate the latent creativity that resides in readers, something that works better than the linear, sequential and fast fading stream of comments (yeah, this is recursive). Comments are writing, but lets have something not as we know it. Writing in this box just feel a little klunky, there must be a better way, make a better blog :), http://roxanaybi.livejournal.com/974.html IF YOU WANT TO SEESHARNI VINSONTOPESS PICS, SEXY VIDEOS, GO HERE, %(, http://radleykoj.livejournal.com/626.html IF YOU WANT TO SEEANDIE MACDOWELLTOPESS PICS, SEXY VIDEOS, GO HERE, mvvpbl, http://proulxepuwe.livejournal.com/781.html CLICK HERE TO WATCHHELEN MIRRENNUDE PICTURES, NAKED PHOTOS, SEX TAPE, PORN VIDEO, ndcrf, http://percykyda.livejournal.com/754.html KIERSTON WAREING NUDE, 5992, http://riannonomyd.livejournal.com/1762.html CLICK HERE TO WATCHNAOMIE HARRISNUDE PICTURES, NAKED PHOTOS, SEX TAPE, PORN VIDEO, aaxy, http://orellaruwi.livejournal.com/851.html CLICK HERE TO WATCHMIRANDA COSGROVEYNUDE PICTURES, NAKED PHOTOS, SEX TAPE, PORN VIDEO, mdifql, http://parfittufyky.livejournal.com/513.html IF YOU WANT TO SEEESTELLA WARRENTOPESS PICS, SEXY VIDEOS, GO HERE, :DD, http://rappet.livejournal.com/1400.html CLICK HERE TO WATCHJESSICA MORRISNUDE PICTURES, NAKED PHOTOS, SEX TAPE, PORN VIDEO, 669, http://rudelsonyziw.livejournal.com/795.html CLICK HERE TO WATCHRIYA SENNUDE PICTURES, NAKED PHOTOS, SEX TAPE, PORN VIDEO, :PPP, http://riannonomyd.livejournal.com/746.html NAOMIE HARRIS NUDE, %-PP,

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